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		<title>Neither theist nor atheist</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s a story that tells you something about yourself. Are you a theist, or an atheist? The theists, atheists and the saint story: Once the head of a village invited a saint to deliver a sermon. But he wasn&#8217;t willing. After persistent coaxing, the saint agreed. The msg was spread across the village, and a [...]]]></description>
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<h2><!--:--><span id="more-129"></span><!--:en-->The theists, atheists and the saint story:</h2>
<p><em>Once the head of a village invited a saint to deliver a sermon. But he wasn&#8217;t willing. After persistent coaxing, the saint agreed. The msg was spread across the village, and a big crowd came and sat waiting for the saint.</em></p>
<p><em> The saint arrived and asked just one question &#8221; How many of you believe in God&#8221;. Non raised their hand. He said, &#8220;well, if all of you are atheist, what&#8217;s my job here?&#8221;.. and walked away.</em></p>
<p><em> The village head was disturbed, thinking that the saint was offended. He ordered the villagers to raise hands if the saint asked the same question again. The saint was requested to kindly visit again.</em></p>
<p><em> The saint came, and asked the crowd &#8220;how many of you believe in God&#8221;? As planned, all the members of the crowd raised their hands. Seeing that he responded &#8220;If all of you are believers, then what&#8217;s my job here?&#8221; and walked away..</em></p>
<p><em> This time even the villagers were disturbed. So they planned out, that next time half of us will raise our hands. The saint was invited again..</em></p>
<p><em> As usual, the saint arrived, and asked &#8221; so this time how many of you believe in God?. Bingo.. as per the master plan.. only half of the crowd raised their hands. The saint responded.. &#8220;well, the half that believes try to convince the other half that doesn&#8217;t. What&#8217;s my job here?&#8221; and walked away..</em></p>
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<p>Did this saint just walked away? Or did he deliver a sermon? He did. Profoundly.. indeed. He delivered the lesson.. that people in general are neither 100% believers, nor 100 % atheists. <strong>Within each of us, there is a voice that &#8220;believes&#8221;, and there is another that &#8220;doubts&#8221;.</strong><!--:--></p>
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		<title>Moksha, the ultimate goal?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 11:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why to attain moksha is the ultimate goal of life All other goals that we attain, the results are temporary. The happiness derived from material success doesn&#8217;t stay for ever. When we say material success, it means success within the domain of kala(or time). Remember the verse from Bhagavad Gita where Sri Krishna saya: &#8220;Time [...]]]></description>
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<h2>Why to attain moksha is the ultimate goal of life</h2>
<p style="text-align: justify;">All other goals that we attain, the results are temporary. The happiness derived from material success doesn&#8217;t stay for ever. When we say material success, it means success within the domain of kala(or time).<!--:--><span id="more-19"></span><!--:en--></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Remember the verse from Bhagavad Gita where Sri Krishna saya: &#8220;Time I am. The great destroyer in this world&#8221;?? Moksha is beyond the domain of time. When one attains that, one frees oneself from the transitory nature of this world. Its time-less bliss.</p>
<h2>What is moksha,what is after that,what happened to us next???</h2>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The experience of moksha is beyond the domain of time. When one attains to the Brahmajyoti, one experiences a time that doesn&#8217;t pass away even for half a moment. Getting a feel of what I just said maynot be possible using the intellect(which also is under the domain of transitory time).</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Brahmajyoti is like the neutral point. No activity takes place here. Nothing changes. Its a state of eternal(timeless, not infinite time) existence(sat), knowledge(chit), and bliss(ananda).</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">According the Brahma Samita, there is a different world of activity, which has a time, but unlike the time in this universe, it is not destructive/transitory. That place is called Vaikuntha, or the abode of the supreme Lord Sri Krishna.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">After attaining Brahmajyoti one can either comeback to this world of mortals, or attain the abode of Lord Sri Krishna, from where no one returns to this world of suffering.</p>
<h2>Verses from Bhagavad Gita</h2>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><em><a title="BG 8.21" href="http://vedabase.net/bg/8/21/en" target="_blank">BG 8.21:</a> That which the Vedāntists describe as un-manifest and infallible, that which is known as the supreme destination, that place from which, having attained it, one never returns &#8211; that is My supreme abode.</em></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><em><a title="BG 15.3-4" href="http://vedabase.net/bg/15/3-4/en" target="_blank">BG 15.3-4:</a> The real form of this tree cannot be perceived in this world. No one can understand where it ends, where it begins, or where its foundation is. But with determination one must cut down this strongly rooted tree with the weapon of detachment. Thereafter, one must seek that place from which, having gone, one never returns, and there surrender to that Supreme Personality of Godhead from whom everything began and from whom everything has extended since time immemorial.</em></p>
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